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📰 IPFS based IndyWeb constellations

completing Peergos & Opidox

converging, confluencing towards closure

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Jerry's amazing inro to Open Global Mind

https://hypothes.is/a/riZ9Msq0EfCSM3vMASKnsg

gyuri

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Public

on "Introducing Open Global Mind"

(www.youtube.com)

we can't remember what we know and we can't share it with one another very effectively that makes it really hard to cooperate

can't remember (recall) what we know what we know it would be important

Matt's Dream Space taking shape

At long last I am changing the default font in the indy)Pad editor ro roboto which is aar more readable even withsmaller font sizes
Share documents in a way that people Can use In-line-trailmarked responses and futher elaborations that would be clearly markd with TrailNMarks in-notation, conversation thread, work on, own their own contributions and can share back
The Read Write Web is born
So this is an example of being able to incorpora**te snippets from telegram
have another great workflow/affordance ready made by the developer of editor.js (I know hi well from the days when I was still active on twitter 6 years ago
I always knew this will come out in the wash in the long run. I just could not imagine it would 5 years

update - 2025-11-25

change - body font

body {font-family: Roboto, sans-serif}

auto.inject - hypothes.is embed.js script

☑️ add formatting changes to ck editor presets

do that first on the Peergos side

update - 2025-11-25

accomplished on the IPFS side

put the editor code at the root of the current IPFS constellation
have some pending changes from the Peergos side that would add a favicon
- and clearly diverging from the Peergos custom app format
- CK Editor and anything derived from that would not work very satisfactorily
- It is better to make the IPFS setup the master
- and use Peergos as a secure encrypted backup and distribution
- and a source of human readable names
- ant trails
enjoy the fact that save would not fail on this side
- a good discipline is to open the same page on the Peergos side
- before sqitching context
- like now
- Use the Universal HyperText transfer affor💃dance cross Apps
- Copy Paste x apps

☑ save pages in file system by chronolarchic structures

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// big.shift-towards - naming focal attention using Trails

how.did.I.get - here

Yesterday I've noticed a marked improvement in the performance of Peergos
Later, today, I even managed to confirm, that the frequently occurring
- dreaded failed to save document status message
  - in the CK Editor based indy0pad.next
- cease to occur
- With that Peergos became really usable!
I am still using the
- vertical tabs
  - and the
- splitview of the Brave Browser
  - that I developed to mitigate that problem.
It is still worth using, even though the Editor is no stable
- simply because it provides a
  - meaningful name for the tab
- that comprised of the last three elements of the path to the document
- that is something that
☑️ needs to be added to CK Editor itself

about

This is the start page of a major new development phase in the autopoiesis of the IndyWeb
Creating a new
- companion constellation of
- open sauce
- autonomous
- infrastructure
that plays nicely with the existing open, commons based per produced infrastructures like
- Peerg🔒s
- OpiDox
  - based infrastructures
This one is based on IPFS
- taking the work of Mauve with Agregore as an inspiration
  - which is not just a Browser but a Weaver of autonomous networks in its own right
  - to this network Indyweb adds a People Cantered Constellation
    - weaving an InterPersonal InterPlanetary Network of
    - local-cosmo indranet of autonomous work spaces
- and is creating a higher level synthesis that leads to the seeding of the
  - minimal workable constellations of infrastructures for the IndyVers/Web/Net
  - that is capable of scaling
    - reach
      - network effect benefitting the participants
      - connectivity
      - conversations that can be continuus without being synchronous
      - instead of feeds maintining self-organizing streams
        with ful provenance and recaptiulable history
        maintinaed for and by the participants for their benefit
      - while guaranteeing
        discoverability at global scales
        interactions at omni present evergreen local scales
    - flows
      - information exchanged as self-value
      - along with the morphic means needed to
      - create/curate engage and experience them
      - experience the web
        not just as an extension of your mind
        but as the medium of structured
        born multiplayer, co-laborative
        info-morphic-capabiity/work-flows
        as self-created value flows
    - autonomy of the participants
      - own your data
        own your destiny
      - with permanence and
      - evergreen future compatibility
      - the very means 1 uses to create/curate everything on the Web
      - privacy
      - security
      - un-enclosable
      - unstoppable
      - in a word
        Flipping existing characteristics
        of Cloud Services to their dual opposites of what characterizes them, viz flip
        Provider Centric to People Centred
        the value created through ensuing network effects is no longer captured/realized by the providers of the services
        but by the participants
        who themselves are the providers
        but
        e them
        
        enclusing
    - mutual learning
    - synthesis
    - salience
    - and significance
  - in a way that results in intelligence augmenation
    - improving the intellectuall capacity not only of individual human beings whio make use of it
  - but entire networks of co-laborators forming
  - interest based autbonomos social networks of their own
  - that leads to the emergence of
    - autnonomous
    - self-hosting
    - autopoietic
    - coevolution of
      - Virtual Cloud Info-morphic Universal Hyperdocument system

practical.steps - indy0pad & indy0wiki.pad interplay

setup.using-brave browser profile: ♖indyweb@tp

// experiment - indy0pad & indy0wiki.pad interplay

?.why.here
- Now that both indy0pad and indy0wiki.pad are setup on IPFS
  - ready to use indy0wiki.pad to start creating
  - explicitly intentionally named/qualified,
  - bi-directionally linked
  - in/out-transclue-ded associative complexes
  - gloss - in-transCLUE-ded
    - is a proposed neologism
      - it is a reimagining of Ted Nelson Idea of transclusion
        but instead of including content from a source
        so that the transcluded content remains in sync with a designated source
      - pages are composed of inline Clues
        and the Clues themselves
        are composed of outlines of clues
      - and every clue has its independent existence
        and while it may have been created in the context of a page
        it is automatically created as a clue
        and in the pages flow these clues are out-transCLUE-ded
        that is to say there is a link out to that clue from the page
        and that clue is shows as a page in 1's indy0.wiki in context
        and can be edited in there
        on save a message is sent to open editors
        to effect an update to the page
        to refresh the content of the
        out-CLUE-ded segment
        This opens up the way to collaborative editing
        TODO
        ~~~ where one click's into the text of a clue appearing on a page
        and the latest version of the clue is shown via indy0wiki.pad
        and if they are not identical
        the user can merge the changes in the ind0wiki.pad
        and signal the re-inclusion of the changed/merge version of the clue in the original document
        The solution to concurrent editing of clues
        relies on the idea that when one references a Clue
        created by others a local attributed copy of the clue is created
        in 1's own ClueSpace and when any other changes the clue they get notified of the changes and can accept thise changes or create a linked conversation/comment about the changes
        This is possible because asynchronous communication channels
        are always available between collaborators
        to send notification about pending changes
        with proposed deltas
        and can initiate real time merging sessions
        This one is a nice example of integral design and
        integral operations
      - That clue will in turn
      - will have a backlinks to all the pages that it is included via an out-transCLUE-ded is anmed broken up/mirrored into clues
  - weaving trans-hyperdocument netowrks
- while indy.0.pad focuses on providing a new writing experience
  - that makes use of the rich capabilities of CK Editor
    - fluent proper way of handling nested outline structure
    - ability to introduce three level heading
    - insert page breaks
further.background information
- Up until now I had to choose between using CK Editor based Peergos Custom App
  - which was for a long time perilous
    - always running the danger of data loss with a careless use of saving
    - which would fail if any other update happened within the folder tree that it was part of Gotcha
    - which is now fixed with the development of the Peergos Custom App
      - indy0pad has a viable workaround
  - but now usable but totally lacks the necessary connection across documents
- indyWiki0pad
  - which is not a Page-in-a-Page oriented full featured editor
  - but a minimal vanilla HTML Rich Text Editor
    - with the ability to introduce Wki like organization nee (WikiNizeR)
      - Wiki Like Organizer of yOur Personal Research
      - Personal Research Assitant
      - https://web.archive.org/web/20151018053101/http://linkedup-project.eu/files/2014/12/WNR-Blog-Picture_2.png
      - WikiNize Research 7 years before Roam Research
        a tool for Personal Knowledge Management
        not the best designation for sure
        Person-first Mutual Learning Space
        but without the great name Networked Thinking Tool
        Presented in 2014 in the Linked Up Challenge
        Decided against launching, because it was clear that
        The Semantic Web with its tessalation of the graph
        in terms tripples, Subject Predicate Object
        was woefully inadevate
        and our approach focusing on named associative complexes required a better way of conceptualizing
        what we called MindGraph
        and indeed it did require another 4 years
        to discover the right way forward
        And since 2018 we were developing concepts of an infrastructure
        that would allow MindGraph to become
        an Interplanetary Interpersonal Open Global Mind
        https://hyp.is/j2W0UsFGEfCD8xvZolPHCw/www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbFg0B8uN0A
        
        Graph
    - of named Dots
    - and ensuring bidirectional eranent linking between Dot Pages
  - It allows dragging and dropping urls onto a page which in turn are turned into
    - propery presented links
- It is this ability and implcit nnterdot linking
  - that makes it ideal to capture the intertwingularity of
  - multi page in a page documents
  - and sections/dots within documents created by indy0pad
- The main benefit of doing so is that it gives the author/creator /curatorof such documents the ability to
  - interlink them in a way that can provide a HyperMap of the territory comprising info-morphic hyperdocuments and all other web accessible pages which IS the territory that is created by individuals co-laboratively
  - high resolution self-organizing indranet workspaces

IPNS Publishing Keys

much of the work involves extensive use of IPNS Publishing Keys

These are documented here

IPNS provides mapping from human readable names, the names of the keys used

to mutable information resources

🧊ipfs http://k51qzi5uqu5div1auuxm59ygav4p7gdg9z4e9iggtu6m43rmc3xw75mczx2b7x.ipns.localhost:8080/

k51qzi5uqu5div1auuxm59ygav4p7gdg9z4e9iggtu6m43rmc3xw75mczx2b7x

purpose

provide a Web Hosted entry point to ongoing
- meta-reflective documentation
- of all work related to developing an IPFS based
  - inter-Local/Personal/Planetary Virtual Cloud
    - infrastructural constellations
  - that are
    - commons based, peer co-produced/evolving
    - self-hosted, browser native
      - Open-
        Sauce
        Source
        Constructs
    - charactised by being
      - autonomous
        local-first
        self-hosted
        private
        secure
        unenclosable
        unstopable
        surveilance resistant
        resistant to harvesting by centralized aggregators
        while maintaining full discoverability
        verifiable attribution and full historic provenance
        of all information exchanges and conversation flows
      - permanent
      - evergreen
      - co-evolvable
      - born Multiplayer
      - Commons based,
      - Peer Produced
      - local-first
      - Self-Hosted
        omni-optional
        integral
        holonic
        co-evolvable
        Infrastrucures
        bootrapping the IndyWeb
including information about how it interplays with and mutually arising with self-hosted Peergos based such infrastructure
- in fact the IPFS based and the Peergos based infrastructures need to be combined
  - into one that is required
  - where
    - IPFS gives a natural peer-hosted, interplanetary evergreen permanence
      - and global reach relying on Content-addressability
      - cryptographic names for interconnected context
    - Peergos gives human readable naming system anchored in
      - globally unique human-meaningful names
      - anchored in global names rooted in Peergos account names
      - that People are able to create themselves
        either by creating such account with existing services like peergos.net
        or can choose to run Peergos themselves on their owned machines
    - while
It is possible to create constellations that rely mainly on IPFS
- and uses minimal, though crucial exteent on Peergos
- The idea is that everything will be done on IPFS
- and only the human-meaningful self-hosted autonomous permanent names are provide through the interaction of Peergos and IPFS
- in the limiting case Peergos will be used to provide
- the means of creating secret links to mutable content
- where the meaningful name is provided by an alternative eco system
- and vice versa

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2025-11-14

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